Moja Lost Lagoon w moim Stanley Park. Czy jesteś zagubiona, tak jak ja? Dlaczego? Co lub kogo zgubiłaś, kto cię zostawił, lub opuścił?
Ach, wiem – tęsknisz do swojego morza, do spotkania ze skałą Siwasha. Tęsknisz do swojego odwiecznego Salish Sea[i]. Teraz jesteś wodą słodką, a byłaś zawsze słoną. A ja, pytasz? Ja ide w moje, popłatane ścieżki mojego starego parku. Nie sięgam swoja ludzką pamięcią dni, gdy ty byłaś słona i szczęśliwa. Ale pamiętam i poznaje Twoje szuwary i trzciny z pięknymi brązowymi pałkami, pamiętam wyspy pływające kwitnących nenufarów. Pamiętam głodny dotyk ust i rąk młodych kochanków parna nocą lata w dzikich alejach parku otaczającego ciebie. Potem kąpiel nocną nagich ciał na Trzeciej Plaży[ii]. Potem … .
Potem, już nie było potem. Potężne fale Atlantyku, po drugiej stronie mego kanadyjskiego świata, rozbiły, rozmyły ścieżki do potem. Wymyły ze stron słownika słowo ‘potem’. Potem jest pustką, a nie oczekiwaniem. Potem jest tym samym każdego dnia, każdej nocy. Każdego roku. Dni, noce i lata podobne do siebie, jak dwie krople wody, przemijają beż śladu, następują po sobie trochę niechciane, niepożądane. Czas nie jest ani złośliwy, ani bezwzględny. On po prostu jest, płynie nie zatrzymując się. Czas nie ma czasu dla rzeczy tak mało użytecznych, jak człowiek.
Cedry w moim parku w Vancouverze trwają prawie wiecznie, nigdy po prostu być nie przestają. Nim skruszy je śmierć dbają, by z ich korzeni, pni zmurszałych wyrastały już nowe, młode cedry. Swoisty rodzaj reinkarnacji botanicznej. Z prochu, próchnicy człowieka nie wyrasta nic, na pewno nie wyrasta nowy człowiek.
Więc śpiewaj puszczo dumna hymn życia. Niech cieszą się strumyki żywej wody płynące pośród twych korzeni. Spłyną do Zagubionej Laguny i opowiedzą o katharsis, o odradzaniu się, o trwaniu.
Wszak i ty, laguno powrócisz do morza, lub morze przyjdzie po ciebie, przytuli, przygarnie, jak macierz pamiętająca, trwająca wiernie.
Ja tylko jeszcze parę wierszy napiszę, kilka wierszy innych poetów przeczytam. I to wszystko. Wiersze to też tylko słowa, nic więcej. Przyjdzie wiatr i je porwie. Może rozsypie te słowa, jak nasionka, w jakimś starym parku i może drzewa je posłyszą w poszumie swych liści nim pofruną podmuchem i upadną – niepotrzebne – na bruki miasta, które też już dawno temu umarło. Miasta, którego ulice i domy będą kruszeć i zacznie powoli je zarastać trawa, krzewy i młode drzewa.
[i] wody oblegające Vancouver, to część tego morza; cieśninę między Vancouverem a Wyspą Vancouver koloniści brytyjscy nazwali Georgia Straight na cześć panującego wówczas króla Jerzego III.
[ii] plaże morskie w Centrum Vancouveru nazywane są liczbami: od Pierwszej tuż przy moście Burrard, przez Drugą na wysokości Lost Lagoon, po najdalej wysuniętą Trzecią.
Reading again the masterwork of Thomas Mann titled “Death in Venice”[i] took me to the edges of my agony of Love and Desire impossible. Of dreams and fears realized intellectually, but holding you emotionally as a powerless prisoner nonetheless.
Where is the line, the edge beyond which we are too weak to venture – and yet, we are crossing the borders all the time, becoming the papier-mâché dolls, whose strings are pulled by the demons and angels alike? Love and desire are narcotics, and we are the addicts. It is an ageless addiction, timeless struggle.
Mann’s writing is his Shakespeare’s “Romeo and Juliet”, his Dante’s ‘Divine Comedy’. But don’t be fooled by it as the only cornerstones of the emotional battles for they are also rooted in “Tristan and Isolde” of Wagnerian genes (through the musically insane “The Ring of Nibelung”). What is interesting is the fact that Wagner, due to his own romantic upheavals and problems, had to escape to … Venice to finish composing ‘Tristan and Isolde’. If Wagnerian music is added to the old Germanic mix (certainly known to Mann), than we can’t escape the influences of Valhalla! You imagination easily conjures the terrifying images of heavy hooves of heavy horses crossing the Alps, steam and foam escaping their nostrils, as they are marching to plunder and murder Greco-Italian vestiges of elegance and order. They are not galloping to discuss the politics and laws on Capitol nor the philosophical counterpoints on Agora in Athens. They are galloping to wash Rome and Athens with Roman and Grecian blood! The horses of Apocalypse at the end of times[ii].
Let us go back to temporary time. Here and now, to Moodswing Café in New Westminster[iii]. Pandemonium in my café, where I go on almost daily routine to write and to have my coffee. Always the same coffee – almost boring – but also a small sign of some order in my chaotic life, some ordinary habit. I came for that coffee and to finish reading Mann’s short story from Venice.
And I encountered pandemonium in that regularly quiet café: hardly a standing spot anywhere. Throngs of bodies, all sitting places taken. Gathering of folks from Rainbow Coalition.
By my table just a solitary fellow. I push few standing gatherers aside and sat by that table next to him. I placed my coffee there, ordered a snifter of wonderful Hennessy, took out my notebook, a pen and put it all on that little table. There was certainly very little place left for this fellow and his drink. He looked perplexed and asked me (without a hint of malice or any anger) very simple question: are you going to write in all that noise and crowd? I gave him a perplexed look and answered without any malice neither: Why wouldn’t I? I am w writer and writing is what I do, I’m not a mingler or joiner of crowds. I write here, by exactly this table. He seemed almost amused by my answer and continued slightly ironically: I didn’t realize it was your table (with the accent on the word ‘your’), should I move somewhere else? I completely disregarded the ironic tone of his question and turned my eyes to his face answering in matter-of-fact tone: Why? That is very kind and very understanding of you. Thank you very much. For a second or two he was speechless and shocked by my candor, than stood up, looked down at me and asked tersely: are you satisfied now? To which I promptly and honestly replied: But of course! And once again – thanks for your understanding. And I returned to scribbling my notes, as he walked away with a shrug of his arms. You can’t blame me for being honest.
Mann conjures all the mastery of Spanish painters in a Goya’sque[iv] style of the turn of XVII and XIX century: the elongated faces, the eyes full of mysticism or terror as in his famous painting ‘Saturn devouring his son’. He sees and feels Albrecht Dürer[v] depictions of Hell few hundred years prior to Goya.The writer is an opposite – one would assume – of terror or chaos. He is from elegant and very bourgeois Munich – just stone throw away to majestic and also stately Austrian Alps. Yet … yes, there is always an ‘alas’!
Suddenly the elegant world of Herr Aschenbah[vi] collapses. From the stately Bavarian city, the elegant slopes of Austrian Alps, from the elegant hotel in Venice, he takes us to the rocks of Tartarus[vii]. Ang[viii], an ungodly proto-Germanic god dons the mask of hoofed Pan[ix] leading a dancing caravan to the edge of desire, of want unfettered by ethics constructed over millennia to constrain lust and primordial instincts. Greed to posses the ‘other’ – his or her body. Almost like today in my café: noisy, talkative, music pulsating, vibrating, desires shielded from being recognized, yet existing, breathing, sweating.
Mann-writer dons the coat of suitor-painter. Hoofed Pan leads Bests and human folk to dance macabre, bodies twisted by primordial instincts of need and warm mist.
Gustav von Aschenbach watches with fascination, yet with terror, as the body count in diseased Venice climbs. Bu so does the throngs of strange animalistic crowd descending from the slopes of the mountains.
I am myself getting tired of Venice, of the sound of hoofs, strange creatures and I leave my café and go to my apartment shielded from all the pandemonium. Leave Tadzio, leave Venice and Valhalla, leave Thomas Mann and his desires. Adieu to all, I am off to bed.
Next day. I left and slept. But gods, the hoofs, the desires beautifully-innocent and the animalistic – they stayed up, waiting for me to finish their story.
Went again to Moodswing Café. All the creatures and characters from the book waited for me. Why should I write your stories? Because the reader?! What more does the reader need to know? An orgy in Elysian Fields[x]? Eurydice turning her back to Orpheus? The River of Forgetting?
No! I have much darker future to foretell you. On my own will, not forced by powers untold.
I wish upon you a march, a cavalcade if you will through the boring meadows of mundane, fields of ordinary days and nights without dreams. Maybe even worse – memories of youth vanishing bit by tiny bit until the Etruscan vases from red clay will dry up. You will no longer remember Alexander and his lover, whom he made himself a living god; you will not recognize young Tadzio sitting on Lido in Venice. But you will survive. You will not die there. You will live a long life somewhere in boring Bavaria forever regretting your cowardice and asking why did you not taste the sweetness of Tadzio’s lips? Never.
Trust me – that torment is hundredfold more terrifying than sudden death in Venice. Thus spoke Zarathustra[xi]. And who would dare to challenge god?
[i] T. Mann, “Death in Venice”, trans. by J. Neugroschel; pub. by VIKING in 1998
In Old French ‘granville’ means simply an old village. Were to be more than just one Granville – it must be than – obviously, LOL – ‘granvilles. Simple. Therefore I walked through and through three of them. Started from the bottom of an old, yet sadly no so much venerable anymore, Granville Street in Downtown Vancouver. It truly used to be a pleasure to walk that street in my younger years. There was everything in there: places to eat, drink, dance, and pick up fellow or girl for an evening of fun, an old opera, and symphony building. It offered entertainment for high prices, and for very moderate pockets alike. It truly was the main thoroughfare of Downtown, for girls and boys, for gay and straight.
It still is interesting, still offers a little bit of everything to everyone. But it lost its grandeur, certain elegance (mind you – not haute couture, but elegance nonetheless). If Davie is paradise for LGBTQ people, Robson for shoppers and Burrard for expensive shopping – Granville was everyone and everyone liked strolling through it. I did. Still do, but with a bit of sadness and … anger at the City Hall for allowing it to reach such a state. We already lost the section of old Hasting Street with the vicinity of Carnegie Library and Granville is not far behind.
Next ‘granville’ on my walking escapade was the Granville Bridge. Everyone should do it once a year! It is such beautiful old bridge and very well maintained for walkers. The views of Waterfront Vancouver, the skyscrapers off the horizon of Metrotown and Brentwood are truly something to behold, similarly as the vistas of the sister Burrard Bridge, and of the English Bay and Bowen Island. From that perspective you are reminded that Vancouver is still dear and beautiful city, regardless of all the shortcomings in the last decade.
Warszawa ma Aleje Jerozolimskie biegnące od Centrum ku Wiśłe i na most Poniatowskiego do Ronda Waszyngtona – Vancouver ma Ulicę Granville biegnąca od Centrum Vancouveru (Waterfornt przy fiordzie Burrard) na most Granville, a po drugiej stronie mostu – wysepkę Granville. Czyli są trzy Granville. Każdy ze swoim specyficznym charakterem i kolorytem. Od mostu poczynając otwierają się przepiękne widoki na zatokę Angielską (English Bay), uroczą architekturę Zachodniego Przedmieścia (West End), Stanley Park, a wszystko zamyka dość wysoka wyspa Bowen.
Po drugiej stronie mostu otwiera się widok na mała wysepkę Granville w dole. Dawniej czysto przemysłowy i mało ciekawy teren dla różnych warsztatów i fabryczek – dziś zaczarowany świat sklepików, galerii sztuk, teatrów, strumieni, hoteliku, kafejek, restauracji i świetnego targu, gdzie znajdziesz każdy towar. Cóż dziwnego, że tą właśnie nazwę wybrano – granville, czyli w starofrancuskim: gościniec. Bo gościniec musi podróżnego kolaską dowieźć i do gospody z noclegiem i pożywieniem, i do straganów przekupek lokalnych. A zawsze gdzieś na targu znajdzie się skrzypek, śpiewak, jaką trupa cyrkowo-teatralna.
Przechodząc koło Front Theater przypomniałem występy tam samej wspaniałej warszawskiej gwiazdy teatru – Magdy Zawadzkiej. Grała tam z naszym, z Vancouveru rodem, amatorskim Teatrem Popularnym. W 2011 występował tu Teatr im. Stefana Żeromskiego w Kielcach z niesamowitą inscenizacją „Samotności pól bawełnianych” Bernarda Coltesa, o czym pisałem na łamach Instytutu Teatralnego im. Raszewskiego[i]. Szerzej o teatrze polskim w Kanadzie pisałem w szkicu historycznym w nr 5 w 2009 Rocznika Twórczości „Strumień”[ii].
A te galeryjki sztuk wizualnych, ach! Co za urocze miejsca i chwile w nich spędzone nie do zapomnienia. Tego dnia spotkałem się tam w Galerii Federacji Artystów Kanadyjskich z Aldoną Dyk, która miała tam jedną ze swoich prac w aktualnej serii wystawienniczej. Długa i świetna rozmowa z nia i jej przyjaciółka, kanadyjska malarką o malarstwie, która szybko popłynęła od warsztatu malarskiego ku teorii sztuki, i dalej na szerokie wody filozoficzno-estetyczne o jej roli w poznawaniu świata i człowieka. Wcześniej nieco wprost fantastyczna wizyta w następnej, bardzo specjalnej, galerii i warsztatach artystycznych „Arts Umbrella”[iii]. Ta galeria i programy, które oferuje, jest całkowicie poświęcona dzieciom i młodzieży artystycznej, zwłaszcza tej, która być może nie miałaby dostępu do tego rodzaju twórczego rozwoju swej osobowości i talentów. Ja byłem zaszokowany dojrzałością, głębią i szalenie silna emocjonalnością oglądanych na ich wystawie prac.
22 września już jutro, koniec lata kalendarzowego, następnego dnia lata astronomicznego. Wybrałem się na ulubioną plażę w Południowym Surrey – Crescent Beach. Naturalnie, że naturalistyczną, LOL. Przyznaję bez zmuszania do zeznań, że plaże golasów uwielbiam najbardziej. Czy tą w Crystal Crescent koło Sambro w Nowej Szkocji, czy tylko Crescent w South Surrey, LOL.
W Nowej Szkocji zresztą na Wschodnim Wybrzeżu więcej było plaż niż plażowiczów – więc naturszczykiem można było być bez problemu i bez oficjalnej destynacji. Pływanie w ubraniu jakoś nie łączy się z wolnością pływania morskiego, bo ostatecznie gacie to też ubranie, a kto kąpie się w ubraniu?! I kiedy wszyscy opalają się w stroju Ewy i Adama (bez listka figowego broń boże!) nie robi to jakiegokolwiek (u zdrowych osobników) wrażenia. A zwłaszcza wśród stworzeń wodnych. Bo jakież też kraby, czy ryby pływają w kostiumach!? No tak, małże przyznaje są jakieś dziwne, łażą po dnie z domami na plecach. Nie poradzisz, zawsze się jacyś dziwacy znajdą, nawet na plaży nudystów.
Woda już była zimna, ale piękna w zielono-stalowym odcieniu. I ta ilość powalonych gdzieś i przygnanych przez fale wielkich pni! Wbite gdzieś miedzy potężnymi głazami, jak strażnicy pogranicza lądu i wody. Wykroty, bale, głazy, zieleń i krzewy starające się wcisnąć w każde miejsce możliwe do zapuszczenia korzonków. Jakby oglądanie w lupie dziejów prehistorii oddzielania się ziemi od oceanu.
A potem nagle: cicho! Sza! Ni słowa więcej!. Bo właśnie kurtyna się podnosi i rozpoczyna najważniejsze, najwspanialsze widowisko – Zachód Boga Ra. Słońce śpiewa arię Pożegnanie Dnia. I tu kończyć się musi opis słowami, bo słów po prostu brak.
Saturday August 16, 2025 was culmination of Pride Week in New West, and traditionally there was a very popular parade. Unlike the huge march in Vancouver with floats and thousands of people marching long route through the city – in West the parade is a parade of the entire downtown core and whoever wants to come. I was glad that it was extended all the way to the old train station building (a popular restaurant for many years now). Back in the day it was a short two blocks of partying and dancing between 4th and 6th Streets. Nowadays it takes the entire length of the street from 4th by the Queens Hotel to 8th by the old tran station. There was no march but just folks mingling with each other and multitude of kiosks offering trinkets, food, drinks, fun games, information booths, There were stages for dance music, stages for performances. Loads and lots of fun – simple. And thousands of people showed up. Met quite a few old friends back from my time, when I lived on the other side of the river, in Surrey. They were grayer, older – but still kicking the butts, LOL. Among them the organizers of the parades in New West and in Holland Park in Surrey, where I first get to know them personally and chatted with them many times. They are still doing the same here, although Surrey no longer does big event for gay community. I think that was at that time in Surrey’s Holland Park I met first time Jeremy Perry, who was still single guy at that time (or was it in the old Heritage Pub in New West and in Surrey we just simply met and chatted – can’t remember that now). Jeremy is now happily married but still works hard for the community in New West. Great guy.
Voila – the guys who works their butts out for years for the community:
Holland Park, Surrey, 2014
… and in New West, 2025 – thank you guys. And Jeremy, where is he? On the picture of course, with me next to him, in the same park in Surrey and the same year 2014.
I will start with few picture prior to the actual parade to show you the hard work organizers and vendors and very friendly (and handsome, always thought that the New West cops very the best dressed and looking in entire Greater Vancouver – seriously had a crush on them, LOL) police officers, who wore very nice badges special badges for that occasion.
Continuing my explorations and re-visiting old familiar places, I went the other day to the picturesque Old Marine Drive. Used to like to take it for the vistas it offered while passing many coves. Was shocked (or sad?) how much the cove with the marina has changed. There was not even half the amount of yachts and boats in the older days. It was actually tranquil. Not so much anymore – au contraire.
But I never really stopped in previous years to explore the shoreline more acutely. I think once I was intrigued if you could observe the ferry passing on its way from Horseshoe Bay to Nanaimo. I hardly ever took that route, it was just easier (and less busy at that time) to take one from my home terminal in Tsawwassen. However, I did take often the small ferry to Bowen Island – my Mom just loved it over there. We would put lot of snacks and some food to the cooler, and would take a little propane stove and she would be happy on that little last beach facing the Howe Sound. There were so many black and salmon berries there – incredible. I would swim and fish there too, and mom cooked the fresh fish. She really loved it there.
I was going to take that little ferry again now, but the timing was not good. One just left and the other would have been too late to have time to truly enjoy the visit. Therefore exploration of the shoreline was in order. And I did what I could, starting with Whytecliff Park. Never knew there was such a maze of rocky trails with unpararelled vistas of the Salish Sea.
Next was, unknown to me before, little marvel cove called Caulfeild Cove. There is a monument there to the memory of on British vice count Francis William Caulfeild, who at end of his career v-ce was appointed the rank of Admiral of Royal Navy and served during the 1 world war under the British Imperial ensign. As far as I could search from British Office his bio, he was neither very successful commander nor liked by his crews and got the distinction in Admiralty only at the end of his active career, so he would not command a ship anymore and do more damage, LOL. Having a British Peerage (due to his aristocratic birth) called for such military title though.
However – the cove by his name is a true and true marvel to explore. Highly recommend. Be careful though during rain – rocks are very high and could be very slippery.
My Canada from ocean to an ocean, from the shores of Atlantic to the shores of Pacific, from Halifax to Vancouver. My Canada intrinsically tied to my John, our Love; his gift to me. Through our meeting and romantic story straight form the pages of Petrarka ‘Beatrice”, from the ancient lovers of Greeks and Macedonians, of Mesopotamians, of Sumerians.
Would I have loved thee if I never met John? Likely, for what there is not to love about thee, Canada? But it would have never consumed me as much, would have never made me such a fervent and ardent lover of this country. My personal private love of John’s Canada for ever etched in my soul and mind.
Halifax Atlantic Fleet
Let’s start with were it all begin in earnest, from our first own home belonging only to us. We met and fell in love almost on the slopes of towering peaks of Rocky Mountain. But it wasn’t till 1994 when we came here, to Greater Vancouver to start a new life in our first own apartment – our Home. On Capitol Hill in North Burnaby. But truly – for us here it is just one big Vancouver. A galery past and recent pictures of that amazing city on the shores of Pacific.
I just noticed that most of the pictures are of people much more than places … . But it is true – it is the people dear or important to you that makes a place – Home. A true home. Where you ar not a tourist, you belo g there, you are IT. My family, dear friends from work and my art promotor activities with poets, actors, musicians from Canada and Poland.
and Atlantic with Halifax – where it all begun for Canada, for entire North America de facto.
Thus end my own journey across the continent, from West to East, and back to West. My Journey of Love, love gifted to me by my own personal love, John. He was, still is in some way, my love to Canada, love of Canada. It begun some odd forty years ago. It didn’t change, it grew stronger perhaps. In a world of growing tensions, being ripped apart, sold to the highest bidder by two megalomaniacs, one from New York and Florida, other from murderous shadows of Kremlin – this country remained true to it’s Canadian core: polite, smiling, carrying. My Canada – a gift that I received from John. Gift of love to good, country, good people. Caring – as he was.
There is a place full of magic. Place that deserves an ode, a poem. But a poem that you, the Reader, will have to write using your own words. I will just offer you some imagery captured on camera during my last visit to Vancouver ( a city full of its own magic and beauty). Therefore, without further ado, let me take you for a walk through that magical place.
Chodzę moimi ulicami, zaglądam do moich kawiarenek. Do Naszych Miejsc. Uśmiecham się do mijanych ludzi, rozmawiam nawet z nimi.
Nagle spostrzegam, że jestem cieniem. Spoza ich świata, poza nimi, obok. Nie, nie umykam chyłkiem, jak złodziejaszek kieszonkowy, jak przemytnik. Ale przenikam między nimi jak cień właśnie. Taki nie całkiem materialny.
Siedzę teraz w jednym z pokoików naszego Queer Community Centre[i] na rogu Davie and Bute. Lubiłem tu przychodzić. Sam, z Johnem. Taki dom poza domem. To tu był pierwszy w historii nowożytnych olimpiad oficjalny Gay Olympic Pawilon (Pride House)[ii]. Po tamtej Olimpiadzie takie Pawilony stały się normą sankcjonowaną przez MKO (Międzynarodowy Komitet Olimpijski). Uroczy recepcjonista wita mnie z uśmiechem i pyta czy ma mnie oprowadzić. Uśmiecham się, znam tu przecież każdy pokoik i zakamarek; przesuwam się bezszelestnie (cienie robią to świetnie) korytarzykami do jednego ze znajomych pokoi, siadam przy stoliku, otwieram notatnik i piszę właśnie te słowa.
Nałkowska używała w swoich Dziennikach często ten zwrot przy kolejnych wpisach: i znów zaszła zmiana w polu mojego widzenia. Ale tu teraz to nie pasuje. To ja – patrzący – przeszedłem zmianę. Stałem się przeźroczystym cieniem.
Ile jest takich cieni spacerujących ulicami? Czy mijam ich sam na skrzyżowaniach nie zauważając nawet? Może moja transformacja jest jeszcze za świeża, jeszcze nie zadomowiła się w mojej świadomości? Niełatwo, bo jeszcze słyszę stuk mojej laseczki i uderzenia cholewek na krawężniku trotuaru.
(English version)
It has been so peaceful and pleasant for the first few days here. Here – back to Our Home, Vancouver. You walked with me; you held my hand. At times – it seemed – you placed a kiss on my cheek.
But it changed abruptly. I noticed it on my second trip to Downtown Vancouver. I was alone. You were nowhere to be seen, to be touched. You were gone. As I know that you are.
Today I ventured closer to our first home on Capitol Hill in Burnaby, as I went to Commercial Drive in East Van.
Commercial is a lovely stretch of space between Hasting and Boadway, that contains people, their laughter, neighborly shopping in plentiful little shops, cafes. It is also a perfect mix of rich and poorer, accountants, architects and artists and artisans. Went to the Cultch Theater – the last play I have seen there years ago was a very good adaptation of “Waiting for Godot”, we went there to see it together, with You.
Stopped by Your favored shop on the corner of Commercial and Venables. Later I had sweets and excellent coffee in one of the cafes.
I looked everywhere. In vain. It came to me in a physical, sharp pain. As if something heavy and cold penetrated my heart. Something that screamed at me angrily: he is not here! He is gone! Oh, I so wanted to pick up a street fight with that screaming ugly IT, have even raised my walking stick a bit, was ready to shout back at IT: you are a liar! He is here, with me!
But there was no one around to scream at. The Screamer was not material, was invisible. But it was loud and clear.
You attempt to re-fight battles that you have had already lost is always futile.
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